N trig duosense bulk windows 8
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Last August 2011 I was glad there was a work around to use «Windows 8 Developer Preview» with DuoSense drivers. Please read Work Around Drivers Duo Sense I tried this work around again. Some drivers got installed, but No Luck, sometimes the Digitizer works, sometimes single touch with fingers works, something nothing works. Also after stand-by it appears that the touch/digitizer hardware behaves strange. What can I do to get approved drivers for the dell XT2 ? Should I ask Microsoft ? Dell ? or N-Trig directly ?
The Windows 8 experience is nothing without finger operations 🙁 I like the Exchange outlook anywhere building option combined with Facebook and Twitter! I like to have it a spin around more!
Anyone able to get the right install procedure to get the MultiTouch working ?
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n-trig has released the windows 8 consumer preview drivers. Just go to n-trig.com to download.
It works for Lenovo T400s, When I first installed the windows 8 drivers it did not work because I had downgraded the firmware to the Vista firmware to get single touch to work, so I then had to use the full windows 7 x64 install to upgrade the firmware. Then after a reboot I now have 4 touch points!
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I am having the same issue with a Lenovo T400s I was able to get everything to work in the developers preview but now no luck no matter what I try. Also my fingerprint reader no longer works even though it did work with the developers preview.
Any one have a solution for this??
Suffering from exactly the same issue here. I can’t even get one-point touch to work correctly for me (it detects my finger, but when it tap something, it doesn’t react — it’s like I’m hovering?)
The MultiTouch HID device is OK (doesn’t crash) until I put a few fingers on the screen. Not that the touch worked at all anyway.
I have 4 fingers working, but I cannot seem to «tap»/»click» on anything. Windows accepts it as a hover, not a tap (I see the charm I’m touching turning lighter to show I’m touching it, but when I let go, nothing happens) — does anyone know how to fix this?
Same with right-clicking, I see the UI come up, but when I let go, nothing comes onto the screen.
Zooming and panning works just fine.
Can’t click anything with the hp touchsmart tx2. I’ts like just moving the mouse but can’t click. Works in some apps (like the pinball app). This is on standard windows drivers. When (manually) installing ntrig drivers it doesn’t work at all.
Worked fine when manually installing the drivers in the developer preview.
Edit: pen works fine with standard windows drivers. Above was about finger use.
On my tx2 I can get single touch to work by uninstalling the N-Trig drivers (I’m guessing it’s using built-in Windows drivers), but flicks don’t work and there is no multi-touch. I hope Microsoft and/or N-Trig figures out a solution, but given N-Trig’s track record, I’m not holding my breath.
I have the same issue using dell latitude xt2 -> no single touch working!! it was working under Windows developer preview.
I’m going to reinstall developer preview.
I have the same issue using dell latitude xt2 -> no single touch working!! it was working under Windows developer preview.
I’m going to reinstall developer preview.
Try uninstalling the N-Trig drivers. That is what got single-touch working for me. With the N-Trig drivers installed I didn’t have any touch working at all, and in the Device Manager I could see that the driver has been stopped because it «reported a problem». This is on my HP tx2, but the drivers are pretty similar and it might work on your Dell as well.
I tried to uninstalla N-Trig drivers, reboot, tried to disable driver and every combinations possible. But nothing. The pen input is working well, single touch not. I have only double touch using finger.
my xt2 have the same behavior. Did You find any solution?
I tried to uninstalla N-Trig drivers, reboot, tried to disable driver and every combinations possible. But nothing. The pen input is working well, single touch not. I have only double touch using finger.
Hello Perry (and others),
When uninstalling the N-trig drivers (using version DuoSense_MT_RC_XT2_32bit_3.118.026) I got a choice to delete the driver aswell I choose Yes delete driver aswell. I had no luck after a reboot. I installed again, nothing, no touch. I performed a system restore to yesterday, now I have the Strange Touch Behaviour:
— When on the Metro Interface I can move the tiles horizontal with 1 finger.
— When on Metro I can touch and hold a single tile and move the tile to a different spot.
— When on Metro I’m unable to select a single application tile, like short left mouse button, So I cannot start Internet Explorer
— When in Internet explorer, I can use 2 fingers, it choppy like in and out zoom action.
— When in Internet explorer, I can drag with 1 finger a page up and down
— When in Internet Explorer I can get the bottom and side menu;s
— When in Internet Explorer I;m unable to select a option / link / tab
AnyWay, I have not got an N-Trig device in the HID subtree, see the screenshot :
Could you show us the version and driver manufacturer you have at the HID section of the Device Manager ?
same as reported by you. I’m going to uninstall the 64bit and I’ll try with 32bit version.
X Perry: under Device Manager, after uninstall N-Trig driver, all group «N-trig DuoSense. » is gone, after reboot no single touch present 🙁
I’ve got the same problem with an HP TX2. With the HP device under Win7 there will be 3 NTrig items under the Digitizers category and one item labelled «N-Trig Multi Touch HID Device» under the HID section. I used a driver backup utility and it only allowed me to back up the 3 devices under the Digitizer section but not the one under the HID devices.
When I loaded the new Win8 preview I restored the files and was able to update the 3 devices correctly. I noticed however that device that previously showed up as a Multi Touch HID Device would just show up as a generic HID device. I confirmed the Hardware ID to make sure it is the same device and it looks like it is just not detected properly with the new release.
For those trying to get single-touch working, I had to remove all the drivers for the device in Windows 8 (as described earlier) and uninstall the N-Trig software from the Windows 7 installation I dual boot with.
I believe the problem is squarely related to the MultiTouch HID device — if removed/replaced in Windows 7, I appear to get the same problem where you have 4 fingers recognised, but you can’t «click» (but can pan, zoom, etc.) as described before.
On Windows 8, this device appears to be crashing. Event logs show:
I’m not sure if this warning has anything to do with the crashes we see occur, but it does seem to preempt it. Note that I believe this warning is given on device driver startup/load rather than on touch/when the thing crashes. But it does make sense that if it doesn’t know which monitor it is attached to it might crash when a touch occurs as it is unable to communicate its position (given that it doesn’t know the monitor).
To PerryReed and all others who seem to have managed to get at least the single touch to work, could we establish which drivers are being used for which devices specificed by VID:PID? I’ve uninstalled (and deleted software on uninstallation) n-trig’s software that comes with Windows 8 CP. I’ve even redownloaded, reinstalled and then uninstalled again, but each time I get to the same position: no single or multi touch.
I’m assuming that uninstallation of n-trig’s software causes the hardware to use other default drivers in Windows 8 which provide the basic functionality but I’m not sure if the drivers Windows has chosen are correct, especially given that some people appear to have it working for single-touch.
I’ve tried this on both 32-bit and 64-bit installations and it behaves the same. I’ll post what drivers my devices are using shortly and maybe we can get a bit of a check list to make sure we’re all singing off the same hymn sheet here.
I just wanted to add that I tried the Vista N-trig driver installation package (32-bit for 32-bit Windows 8 CP) and it worked fine. I just installed the whole package as normal (didn’t need to do the DPInst.exe) and restarted the PC. Single-touch is now working fine. Multi-touch is a bit weird but it’ll do fine for now.
For me, I didn’t need to install any vista drivers, but I uninstalled the N-Trig software from my Windows 7 (which I dual boot) and removed all the N-Trig drivers from Windows 8 via device manager. After a reboot, I think single touch started working.
I think the fact that the Windows 7 drivers have one been installed on Windows 7 means that the firmware has been updated such that integrated Windows drivers will no longer work. Uninstalling these in 7 or installing other drivers (such as the Vista ones) seems to put firmware into the device which is compatible with integrated windows drivers. (atleast this is my theory).
Yup the trick with Quikky gave us is working kind off, I did following:
— Uninstalled all N-Trig Drivers and selected «delete drivers»
— Rebooted
— Installed N-Trig Vista 32 Bit «NtrigBundle_1.206.026_Vista32» from NTrig Website, used Right click and selected Run As Administrator
— It Asked for an reboot, did that, after Reboor a Firmware Upgraded was automatically committed (needs power cord connected)
— Rebooted again, I think, not sure
— Single click works, scrolling also, but..
Zooming in the Metro Internet Explorer resulted in an very small webpage, I’m unable to reset it to normal view. The max I got with ctrl+ the + key is this:
Internet explorer in normal Desktop is OK, I already used the reset advanced settings, looks like the Metro Internet Explorer isn’t affected. Unable to get the settings from the Metro IE.
We get there step by step, I also need to test the Windows 7 environment for still working (Multi) Touch.
It looks like, from what I’m reading, that the trick is to make sure that the newer N-Trig firmware is also uninstalled along with the drivers. I’m not on my tx2 right now, so I cannot see which drivers specifically are in use at the moment, but I can recall that none of them say «N-Trig» so I believe they are default Windows drivers.
My installation of Win 8 is probably different than anyone else’s, so perhaps this will help explain things as well: I started by doing a System Restore on Windows 7 to get to a factory-installed default installation. I had been having lots of problems (read: blue screens) and was hoping that the problem was software, not hardware, and in doing so the problems would go away (they didn’t). I then did a clean install of Win 8 CP from a DVD on which I had burned the .ISO.
After installing Win 8, I had single touch working and tried installing the N-Trig DuoSense drivers from their website (made for Win 7), but after installing them, I had no touch working at all and could see that the N-Trig driver had been stopped by Windows because it «reported a problem». Uninstalling the drivers and rebooting caused the single touch to work again (using the default Windows drivers). I’m pretty sure that the uninstall also reverted the firmware.
Sadly, I’m still getting random reboots and blue screens, although the new Windows bluescreen is much more friendly than the old one, so I think I still do have a hardware problem of some sort. My plan has been to buy a new tablet later this year for Windows 8 anyway.